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		<title>By: cheap compuetrs</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/03/27/bell-trottles-indie-isps/comment-page-1/#comment-1504</link>
		<dc:creator>cheap compuetrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p2p traffic being throttled...umm...thats just too bad !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p2p traffic being throttled&#8230;umm&#8230;thats just too bad !</p>
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		<title>By: Buy Boats Online</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/03/27/bell-trottles-indie-isps/comment-page-1/#comment-1414</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy Boats Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have an even worse problem in Australia, where the goverenment are trying to throttle ALL P2P traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have an even worse problem in Australia, where the goverenment are trying to throttle ALL P2P traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: iphone games music</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/03/27/bell-trottles-indie-isps/comment-page-1/#comment-584</link>
		<dc:creator>iphone games music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice blog, i have added it to my favourites, greetings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice blog, i have added it to my favourites, greetings</p>
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		<title>By: Wirelessnorth.ca &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Everyday the same again</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/03/27/bell-trottles-indie-isps/comment-page-1/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>Wirelessnorth.ca &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Everyday the same again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with open access provisions. Typical home broadband connections average 3-6Mps in Canada when unthrottled with faster connections available in some areas at higher prices. Canada has no national broadband, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with open access provisions. Typical home broadband connections average 3-6Mps in Canada when unthrottled with faster connections available in some areas at higher prices. Canada has no national broadband, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Loshen</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/03/27/bell-trottles-indie-isps/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>John Loshen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it was only a matter of time, after all just last month the Japanese were presenting their findings on overall Internet traffic and announced that the 4 main ISP’s had throttled P2P traffic and there are similar proposals being floated around in the UK and France…

In Canada there is No Doubt that the carriers have been overselling their bandwidth for a long time and I agree that this needs to be addressed. CRTC???

Legitimate file sharing traffic using Peer 2 Peer does exist and one great example is a Canadian start-up, 2Peer.com. Their premise is the “Private Internet”, it may sound a bit hokey but I have to say I am a big fan. I can share our personal photos and videos with my friends and family and don’t have to waste time uploading and sharing from a third party site.

With 2Peer I can share privately from my computer with people I authorize utilizing a peer to peer framework. This way I don’t have to worry about pedophiles, stalkers, and so on looking at my personal family pictures or videos. Just look at the invasion of privacy issues with Facebook and MySpace in the past couple months…

So I guess I should be getting my refund cheque in the mail since my bandwidth is going to be throttled because I use software that is P2P based. Nothing like hindering a Canadian start-up at the same time, way to go Bell!

Lesson learned from Jason Laszlo is that you may want to check out your privacy settings before you make comments in a open world or get a service that is private like 2Peer.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it was only a matter of time, after all just last month the Japanese were presenting their findings on overall Internet traffic and announced that the 4 main ISP’s had throttled P2P traffic and there are similar proposals being floated around in the UK and France…</p>
<p>In Canada there is No Doubt that the carriers have been overselling their bandwidth for a long time and I agree that this needs to be addressed. CRTC???</p>
<p>Legitimate file sharing traffic using Peer 2 Peer does exist and one great example is a Canadian start-up, 2Peer.com. Their premise is the “Private Internet”, it may sound a bit hokey but I have to say I am a big fan. I can share our personal photos and videos with my friends and family and don’t have to waste time uploading and sharing from a third party site.</p>
<p>With 2Peer I can share privately from my computer with people I authorize utilizing a peer to peer framework. This way I don’t have to worry about pedophiles, stalkers, and so on looking at my personal family pictures or videos. Just look at the invasion of privacy issues with Facebook and MySpace in the past couple months…</p>
<p>So I guess I should be getting my refund cheque in the mail since my bandwidth is going to be throttled because I use software that is P2P based. Nothing like hindering a Canadian start-up at the same time, way to go Bell!</p>
<p>Lesson learned from Jason Laszlo is that you may want to check out your privacy settings before you make comments in a open world or get a service that is private like 2Peer.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/03/27/bell-trottles-indie-isps/comment-page-1/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heri please...

That notice was not submited to everyone. As you must not know Sympatico and Bell Nexxia are two different divisions of the same company. Sympatico and other 3rd party ISP buy access from the government regulated (at PPPoE frame relay level) from Bell Nexxia.

That notice was in regards to Bell Sympatico meaning it does not pertain to 3rd party companies.

Im fact it was the 3rd party companies that confronted Bell about this last week and they finally admitted that they were throttling them.

Shady business practices, according to TekSavvys own network graphs overall traffic is down as much as 60%. They did this so people wouldn&#039;t leave Sympatico in droves for a much better internet experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heri please&#8230;</p>
<p>That notice was not submited to everyone. As you must not know Sympatico and Bell Nexxia are two different divisions of the same company. Sympatico and other 3rd party ISP buy access from the government regulated (at PPPoE frame relay level) from Bell Nexxia.</p>
<p>That notice was in regards to Bell Sympatico meaning it does not pertain to 3rd party companies.</p>
<p>Im fact it was the 3rd party companies that confronted Bell about this last week and they finally admitted that they were throttling them.</p>
<p>Shady business practices, according to TekSavvys own network graphs overall traffic is down as much as 60%. They did this so people wouldn&#8217;t leave Sympatico in droves for a much better internet experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Hogtown Consulting &#187; Bell Canada stomps on network neutrality</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/03/27/bell-trottles-indie-isps/comment-page-1/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator>Hogtown Consulting &#187; Bell Canada stomps on network neutrality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more from: WirelessNorth.ca, Michael Geist, Mark Kuznicki, public sector unions and many, many others.      no comments        [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Kuznicki</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/03/27/bell-trottles-indie-isps/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kuznicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Readers might find this amusing: http://digg.com/tech_news/Bell_Canada_rep_calls_journalist_lemmings_on_Facebook

I sure did! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers might find this amusing: <a href="http://digg.com/tech_news/Bell_Canada_rep_calls_journalist_lemmings_on_Facebook" rel="nofollow">http://digg.com/tech_news/Bell_Canada_rep_calls_journalist_lemmings_on_Facebook</a></p>
<p>I sure did! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Dinnen</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/03/27/bell-trottles-indie-isps/comment-page-1/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Dinnen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for shining a light on this WirelessNorth.

I&#039;d have to disagree with Heri on this not being news. It is indeed true that Bell Sympatico started screwing their residential customers with this unannounced throttling policy months ago. But the fact that they are now applying the same policy to their wholesale partners, again by stealth, is a different thing altogether.

The reason, as I understand, that Bell is required by law to wholesale their last mile bandwidth to third party ISPs is to promote competition in the ISP market. Bell applying throttling to other ISPs (such as Teksavvy) who sell their service with proud claims of not throttling traffic is anti-competitive and harmful to Canadian business and consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for shining a light on this WirelessNorth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to disagree with Heri on this not being news. It is indeed true that Bell Sympatico started screwing their residential customers with this unannounced throttling policy months ago. But the fact that they are now applying the same policy to their wholesale partners, again by stealth, is a different thing altogether.</p>
<p>The reason, as I understand, that Bell is required by law to wholesale their last mile bandwidth to third party ISPs is to promote competition in the ISP market. Bell applying throttling to other ISPs (such as Teksavvy) who sell their service with proud claims of not throttling traffic is anti-competitive and harmful to Canadian business and consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: heri</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/03/27/bell-trottles-indie-isps/comment-page-1/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>heri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this isn&#039;t news, bell confirmed last october that they did traffic shaping http://tinyurl.com/2uqnvn 

i thought everybody was aware of this, and there is no reason that thirdparty resellers would have unlimited traffic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this isn&#8217;t news, bell confirmed last october that they did traffic shaping <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2uqnvn" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2uqnvn</a> </p>
<p>i thought everybody was aware of this, and there is no reason that thirdparty resellers would have unlimited traffic</p>
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