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May 2nd, 2008Rogers and Nokia: N95 Launch

Posted by Jevon in Uncategorized, apple, data, datarates, devices, events

I made the trek out to the Rogers Headquarters this morning to cover the launch of the Nokia N95. I was sent in place of Tom because he is gone to sail a boat around the Carribean. Tough life.

I had secretly hoped that Rogers would unveil some sort of new pricing scheme, something that would be a preview of the monthly pricing for the upcoming iPhone. No such luck.

The N95, which was first released in March of 2007 (just over a year ago), is a fine phone. Everyone I know who has had one in the past year has loved it. In typical Nokia style, it is very hacker friendly as it runs Symbian, and you can install everything from games to your own webserver on it.

It is no secert: The N95 is a killer phone that looks great and we all wish we could have. It easily rivals the iPhone in everything except popularity, although the 10 million N-Series phones Nokia sold last quarter isn’t so bad.

When the phone is available next week, it will come with a 3-year contract as a bonus when you buy a 20$ a month add-on pack on top of any voice plan you want. Under the typical Vision plans you can get Video Streaming, Audio Streaming and a slew of other Vision features. The executives I spoke to weren’t terribly clear about how the plan would stack, but this is what I was able to gather.

  1. Pick any voice plan
  2. Add on a 20$ a month pack that includes
    • Unlimited Email (restricted to Gmail, Yahoo Mail, etc,. no POP)
    • 2500 SMS Messages
    • “A couple hundred MMSs”
    • Unlimited Web Browsing
    • Free 3-year contract
  3. If you want to use GPS, you can either pay for Rogers Telenav product or you can use Nokia Maps, but data is pay-per-use for the non-Rogers application. The executive I spoke to quoted that the pay-per-use data would be at 1.5c/kb.
  4. On a 3-year contract, most of the Vision features get included.
  5. If you don’t want the 20$ addon pack mentioned above, you can just get the 7$/month unlimited web-browsing addon.
  6. The phone will be priced at $399 on a 3-year contract

So, it didn’t happen. I didn’t get my revolution in pricing. They didn’t say “60$ a month for 1000 minutes and unlimited data usage on the device”, instead I was left more confused than ever. This application is pay-per-use, but this one is a flat fee. Application X is free, but you pay for its Data. Unlimited Email is included, but you can only use specific providers.

The list goes on. You are all used to it, we all think it is normal. I, however, have been helping my mother shop for a phone the last few weeks, and I can tell you that most people still can’t navigate these options.

By simplifying plan pricing, Rogers, Bell or Telus could make it much easier for people to buy new devices and, most likely, start using more and more services. As it is, pricing is still very unclear and has not improved in years. I am not complaining about actual data rates here, I am complaining about the daunting pricing structures.

The question is: Has Rogers twisted Apple’s arm and will they offer similarily confusing options for the iPhone? Will the Canadian iPhone come with Exchange support, undercutting the lucrative corporate email market that Rogers, Telus and Bell all specifically protect (by limited what email accounts you can get email from on cheaper plans), and will all applications fall in a single, large (or unlimited) data bucket the way pricing has been set for the iPhone all over the world, or will billing be segmented by Application. Will rogers try to put iPhone users on to their Telenav product, and charge per-use for the iPhone’s built in maps application?

The answer should be an obvious “No”. Of course Apple will demand a similar pricing scheme for the iPhone in Canada as they have negotiated in other countries. I hope that is the case, but if so, it really seems odd that Nokia is getting such a bad deal, so close to the launch of the iPhone.

My guess is that this discombobulated pricing is the result of internal politics. The Vision plans seem to come from a different group than other applications and options, and I imagine the same could be said for Blackberry and other Smartphone plans. Consolidated and clearer pricing may require not just a new vision for Rogers, but serious organzational changes.

  • Watch Despicable Me Online
    I also carry mine in my front jeans pocket and I'd say it's small judging by how many things you can do with it
  • Tim Sanders
    Love this phone! Always been a Nokia Fan!
  • henry
    I love this phone too. Cant wait for the N96 and discover what its capable of.
  • JOE
    I HAVE THE IPHONE WHICH I HATE AND I WANT TO GET THE NOKIA N95 DOES ANYONE KNOW IF I WILL BE ABLE TO USE THE NOKIAS 3G SERVICE WITH THE IPHONES $20 AMONTH DATAPLAN?
  • WirelessNorth
    The easiest way to answer this one would be to call up rogers and ask them. We'd love to hear what you find out. Also, there appears to be something wrong with your shift key. You could get that checked out. ;)
  • gmf
    It's a mystery why Nokia even tries to penetrate this market. Let's face the truth, we live in a place where wireless service providers resemble organized crime groups, while the general public has the ability to comprehend mobile devices (actually you can replace mobile devices with any polytechnic subject) slightly better than a boiled potato. In other words, this product is way too good for this market, again. After reading the specs for the upcoming N96, I closed my pc with disappointment, knowing perfectly well I won't buy it, just like the N95. It's a shame.
  • Jim Tsingalos
    There are all kinds of dictatorships and the one we, the consumers, are subjected to is imposed on us by the 3 big bullies, ever hungry for more profits, locking us into one sided 3 year contracts, and deciding what new smart phones and when to use.
    Having been frustrated in the past with their dictates, I decided (last March) to buy the Nokia N95, pay the full price upfront, and add a SIM card for $100 with an expiry date 12 months later, give up the Web browsing and e-mails, except when I am near my own or the office computer, thus refusing to put any one of the above on my payroll.
  • roland
    it's may 7th! anybody have any clarification on the 3rd party app tax ? is it really 5 cents / kb? i hope not!
  • BrokenReel
    Do you know if WiFi is still enabled? Cause as much I want an N95, I'm not willing to be up quite that much from Rogers.
  • Jevon
    WIFI is enabled I believe. It was mentioned a few times as a way for customers to save on Data.
  • roland
    quelle r*poff and quelle maze of twisty passages all alike

    let's make the pricing convoluted and r*p people off! this is really bad

    http://rolandtanglao.com/archives/2008/05/03/no...
  • xiaoxiao
    "It easily rivals the iPhone in everything except popularity, although the 10 million N-Series phones Nokia sold last quarter isn’t so bad."

    And 10 million N95 phones alone sold since March 2007.
  • heri
    really, I have a friend who has it. he says it's too big, there is no clear "feature winner" for the phone, couple of UI problems etc. so he leaves it at home and uses a smaller & faster phone. and this comes from a telecom guy
  • Jevon
    Nobody who I know really complains about the size too much. It definitely isn't a "back pocket" sized phone, that is forsure.
  • xiaoxiao
    It's definitely pocketable. I carry it in my front jeans pocket.

    N95
    Dimensions 99 x 53 x 21 mm, 90 cc
    Weight 120 g

    iPhone
    Dimensions 115 x 61 x 11.6 mm
    Weight 135 g

    "Feature winners" for me include GPS (use Nokia maps - no fees), stereo bluetooth, file transfers via bluetooth, podcasting app, 30fps video camera, 5mpx autofocus camera, flash support, opera mini (3d party), very large selection of 3rd party apps, built-in VoIP support, quick share feature (post pics and movies to sites like Flickr and Ovi), geotagging for pics ... I love this phone (mine's the -3 variant, with a microSD). :)
  • Jevon
    Rogers is saying that Nokia Maps application use will be charged per KB if it uses any data.
  • xiaoxiao
    Yes, but you can preload your maps from your computer (I've loaded all of North America for example). I use GPS + Nokia Maps regularly and haven't incurred any extra charges. If you use aGPS, then getting a fix on your location might require a few bytes of data (not KB), but other than that if you've preloaded your maps, and you're not using any additional, possibly network-specific, features you don't have to worry about data charges.
  • Jevon
    Oh,. awesome! That is great. And with 8GB of storage, there is more than enough space to hold all the maps you would want.
  • Mortgage Calculator
    It's amazing what seemed "awesome" two years ago!
  • Jake
    You could say that but some of the new phones aren't what they're made out to be. I got a Samsung Omnia a year ago. Wish I hadn't really.
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