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	<title>Comments on: Breaking News: Rogers to revamp data pricing (is that up or down?)</title>
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		<title>By: Martin Kuplens-Ewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Kuplens-Ewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogers plans were released today (&lt;a href=&quot;http://icanhaz.com/screwedburger%29:&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://icanhaz.com/screwedburger):&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Least expensive: $60 - 150 mins, 400MB transfer, 75 sms&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most expensive: $115 - 800 mins, 2GB transfer, 300 sms&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The two steps in between ($75, $100) give you 750 and 1gb of transfer respectively with some minute and sms upgrades, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3 year contract required.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Screwed by our oligopolists again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogers plans were released today (<a href="http://icanhaz.com/screwedburger%29:" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://icanhaz.com/screwedburger" rel="nofollow">http://icanhaz.com/screwedburger</a>):</p>
<p>Least expensive: $60 &#8211; 150 mins, 400MB transfer, 75 sms</p>
<p>Most expensive: $115 &#8211; 800 mins, 2GB transfer, 300 sms</p>
<p>The two steps in between ($75, $100) give you 750 and 1gb of transfer respectively with some minute and sms upgrades, too.</p>
<p>3 year contract required.</p>
<p>Screwed by our oligopolists again.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Kuplens-Ewart</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/06/16/breaking-news-rogers-to-revamp-data-pricing-is-that-up-or-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Kuplens-Ewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogers plans were released today (&lt;a href=&quot;http://icanhaz.com/screwedburger%29:&quot;&gt;http://icanhaz.com/screwedburger):&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Least expensive: $60 - 150 mins, 400MB transfer, 75 sms&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most expensive: $115 - 800 mins, 2GB transfer, 300 sms&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The two steps in between ($75, $100) give you 750 and 1gb of transfer respectively with some minute and sms upgrades, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3 year contract required.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Screwed by our oligopolists again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogers plans were released today (<a href="http://icanhaz.com/screwedburger%29:"></a><a href="http://icanhaz.com/screwedburger" rel="nofollow">http://icanhaz.com/screwedburger</a>):</p>
<p>Least expensive: $60 &#8211; 150 mins, 400MB transfer, 75 sms</p>
<p>Most expensive: $115 &#8211; 800 mins, 2GB transfer, 300 sms</p>
<p>The two steps in between ($75, $100) give you 750 and 1gb of transfer respectively with some minute and sms upgrades, too.</p>
<p>3 year contract required.</p>
<p>Screwed by our oligopolists again.</p>
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		<title>By: xiaoxiao</title>
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		<dc:creator>xiaoxiao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw it mentioned at Howard Forums and signed up on Thursday. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Highway robbery&quot; maybe, but, again, I&#039;m now paying half as much for more than 10 times the data. And it&#039;s &quot;real&quot; data, not one of those &quot;email and surfing&quot; plans, and I can use my own phone, not a carrier&#039;s hobbled version. For this carrier, it&#039;s a definite step forward and reasonably acceptable for my needs (moderate email, uploading a couple of dozen photos monthly, downloading a handful of podcasts weekly, light surfing, watching the odd short video, occasional Google map use). For others it might not be (heavy surfers, &quot;downloaders&quot;, heavy business users, anyone who consumes a lot of streaming media, and so on).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(The problem with the other carriers, for me, is that I&#039;m used to being able to pop in a sim card when I&#039;m outside of the country. And I like the wider range of GSM devices there are to choose from.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding the iPhone, I suspect there&#039;ll be a specific plan for that device, perhaps a better one. Rogers and Fido have special plans for their branded Windows Mobile and Blackberry devices (unlimited email, etc) and I&#039;d imagine they&#039;d do the same for the iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw it mentioned at Howard Forums and signed up on Thursday. </p>
<p>&#8220;Highway robbery&#8221; maybe, but, again, I&#39;m now paying half as much for more than 10 times the data. And it&#39;s &#8220;real&#8221; data, not one of those &#8220;email and surfing&#8221; plans, and I can use my own phone, not a carrier&#39;s hobbled version. For this carrier, it&#39;s a definite step forward and reasonably acceptable for my needs (moderate email, uploading a couple of dozen photos monthly, downloading a handful of podcasts weekly, light surfing, watching the odd short video, occasional Google map use). For others it might not be (heavy surfers, &#8220;downloaders&#8221;, heavy business users, anyone who consumes a lot of streaming media, and so on).</p>
<p>(The problem with the other carriers, for me, is that I&#39;m used to being able to pop in a sim card when I&#39;m outside of the country. And I like the wider range of GSM devices there are to choose from.)</p>
<p>Regarding the iPhone, I suspect there&#39;ll be a specific plan for that device, perhaps a better one. Rogers and Fido have special plans for their branded Windows Mobile and Blackberry devices (unlimited email, etc) and I&#39;d imagine they&#39;d do the same for the iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>xiaoxiao, where are you getting this information? I can&#039;t find any mention of this on either the Rogers or Fido sites.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the plans you mention, &quot;not great&quot; is being more than a bit generous. I&#039;d call $30 for 300 megabytes &quot;highway robbery&quot; (the plans from, say, a month ago are more of a &quot;high treason&quot; level of pricing).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If that data is correct, not only is Rogers not getting a new iPhone contract from me, but I&#039;ll also be switching my existing voice service to someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xiaoxiao, where are you getting this information? I can&#39;t find any mention of this on either the Rogers or Fido sites.</p>
<p>As for the plans you mention, &#8220;not great&#8221; is being more than a bit generous. I&#39;d call $30 for 300 megabytes &#8220;highway robbery&#8221; (the plans from, say, a month ago are more of a &#8220;high treason&#8221; level of pricing).</p>
<p>If that data is correct, not only is Rogers not getting a new iPhone contract from me, but I&#39;ll also be switching my existing voice service to someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: xiaoxiao</title>
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		<dc:creator>xiaoxiao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The plans are out (Rogers &amp; Fido), and while not great, they do represent a significant step forward for this carrier. Here&#039;s the breakdown:     &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* $30 - 300 megabytes&lt;br&gt;* $60 - 1 gigabytes&lt;br&gt;* $80 - 3 gigabytes&lt;br&gt;* $100 - 6 gigabytes&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All devices are eligible, including unlocked &quot;grey market&quot; non-Rogers and non-Fido phones, and no contract is required. Moreover, these are true data plans, not &quot;web-and-email&quot; plans. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Considering that until yesterday afternoon I was paying $60 for 25 megabytes, I&#039;m not complaining too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The plans are out (Rogers &#038; Fido), and while not great, they do represent a significant step forward for this carrier. Here&#39;s the breakdown:     </p>
<p>* $30 &#8211; 300 megabytes<br />* $60 &#8211; 1 gigabytes<br />* $80 &#8211; 3 gigabytes<br />* $100 &#8211; 6 gigabytes</p>
<p>All devices are eligible, including unlocked &#8220;grey market&#8221; non-Rogers and non-Fido phones, and no contract is required. Moreover, these are true data plans, not &#8220;web-and-email&#8221; plans. </p>
<p>Considering that until yesterday afternoon I was paying $60 for 25 megabytes, I&#39;m not complaining too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil you are right that it only properly functions on an unlimited plan however dont forget that Apple inked a deal with O2 to bring the EDGE iPhone to Ireland with a 1gb cap, although on 3G that wont take very long at all to use up so it may be increased. Also with the glut of countries getting the iPhone Apple may have reduced its restrictions to get it in so many countries so fast. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want an iPhone badly but if Rogers prices are too far out I wont buy one until the prices become at least somewhat reasonable. In fact we all should avoid buying one if it is not reasonable, if their sales are low they will lower data rates to increase sales but if sales stay high and there is no GSM competition the prices will remain high....that is unless the spectrum auction introduces a new player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil you are right that it only properly functions on an unlimited plan however dont forget that Apple inked a deal with O2 to bring the EDGE iPhone to Ireland with a 1gb cap, although on 3G that wont take very long at all to use up so it may be increased. Also with the glut of countries getting the iPhone Apple may have reduced its restrictions to get it in so many countries so fast. </p>
<p>I want an iPhone badly but if Rogers prices are too far out I wont buy one until the prices become at least somewhat reasonable. In fact we all should avoid buying one if it is not reasonable, if their sales are low they will lower data rates to increase sales but if sales stay high and there is no GSM competition the prices will remain high&#8230;.that is unless the spectrum auction introduces a new player.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron De Giusti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron De Giusti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I can not stand Rogers, I am trying not to get upset at them for their high prices ... they are a company trying to make the most money possible.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What really, really upsets me is the CRTC.  They are to blame for Canadians being subjected to one and only one GSM provider.  That is a joke.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The FCC in the States seems to take quite a different stance than the CRTC.  The FCC seems to focus on &quot;choice for the consumer&quot; whereas the CRTC seems to focus on &quot;protecting the rights of the company/companies that they have deemed legitimate to operate in a space they regulate&quot;.  That is a big, big difference.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We seem to think the Americans are all about big business, but what I am seeing more and more of is that they focus on consumers rights ... the rights of the people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Canada we take this protectionist attitude.  I believe our Government agencies think they are doing us Canadians a favour by protecting us from those big, bad American companies; but, all they are doing is limiting our choices.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What we need in Canada are consumer advocacy groups with clout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I can not stand Rogers, I am trying not to get upset at them for their high prices &#8230; they are a company trying to make the most money possible.</p>
<p>What really, really upsets me is the CRTC.  They are to blame for Canadians being subjected to one and only one GSM provider.  That is a joke.</p>
<p>The FCC in the States seems to take quite a different stance than the CRTC.  The FCC seems to focus on &#8220;choice for the consumer&#8221; whereas the CRTC seems to focus on &#8220;protecting the rights of the company/companies that they have deemed legitimate to operate in a space they regulate&#8221;.  That is a big, big difference.</p>
<p>We seem to think the Americans are all about big business, but what I am seeing more and more of is that they focus on consumers rights &#8230; the rights of the people.</p>
<p>In Canada we take this protectionist attitude.  I believe our Government agencies think they are doing us Canadians a favour by protecting us from those big, bad American companies; but, all they are doing is limiting our choices.</p>
<p>What we need in Canada are consumer advocacy groups with clout.</p>
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		<title>By: tj</title>
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		<dc:creator>tj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the way Robbers has done things with the Touch and the Unlimited Mobile Browsing option that accompanied it with each new activation, I think its pretty reasonable to assume that they will have a special plan for the iPhone with data rates staying the same for all other phones. Except knowing them rather than make it expensive, they&#039;re probably gonna make it restrictive, only certain websites and certain domain names for email. Anything outtabounds is extra. So same thing as their mobile browsing package, but with email, repackaged and with new marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the way Robbers has done things with the Touch and the Unlimited Mobile Browsing option that accompanied it with each new activation, I think its pretty reasonable to assume that they will have a special plan for the iPhone with data rates staying the same for all other phones. Except knowing them rather than make it expensive, they&#39;re probably gonna make it restrictive, only certain websites and certain domain names for email. Anything outtabounds is extra. So same thing as their mobile browsing package, but with email, repackaged and with new marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Apple doesn&#039;t let Rogers cash grab, who else can it goto?  No one. Rogers definitely has the upper hand.  I guess Apple really wants to add Canada on its Risk map, Canada does make up a lot of red area.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rogers will create a special plan with a specially expensive price tag.  Data prices will stay the same for other phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Apple doesn&#39;t let Rogers cash grab, who else can it goto?  No one. Rogers definitely has the upper hand.  I guess Apple really wants to add Canada on its Risk map, Canada does make up a lot of red area.   </p>
<p>Rogers will create a special plan with a specially expensive price tag.  Data prices will stay the same for other phones.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The iPhone will really only work with an unlimited plan. I do not think Apple would make a deal with them in any other fashion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How much fun is it to browse online or even check your email while always thinking about your cap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iPhone will really only work with an unlimited plan. I do not think Apple would make a deal with them in any other fashion.</p>
<p>How much fun is it to browse online or even check your email while always thinking about your cap?</p>
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