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August 21st, 2008Update on mobile broadband, Rogers speeds halved in just 4 months

Posted by Editor in data

It seems the Globe and Mail has picked up on our story last week of a slowing Rogers high speed network. We had a a number of helpful contributors write in with speeds. The fastest iPhone 3G speeds reported currently stands at 440 kbps (that’s kilabits per second). With the fastest rogers HSDPA PC cards ringing in at 800 to 900 kbps at best (twice as fast as an iPhone incidentally).

Here are a few more data points we measured ourselves from a few spots across Eastern Canada this past weekend (best speed of 3 test runs reported):

Toronto: 986/340 kbps dowload/upload, latency: 270ms
Quebec City: 260/287 kbps download/upload, latency: 189ms
Halifax Airport, Bridgewater, Lunenburg: no 3G service, latency: infinite

Bridgewater/LeHave on EVDO rev A dongle: 111 kbps, latency: 999ms (consistently laggy off the charts latency)

As measured in Toronto via speedtest.net:

Some thoughts:

1. We now know why the call the east coast is known as “GSM hell”. Bragg Communications, good on you if you can fix wireless out east.

2. Rogers 3G effective 3G bandwidth appears to be (more than) cut in half since just last april and before the iPhone, N95 launch. We would be happy if someone can prove us wrong, but from the same test locations, peak bandwidth has dropped from well over 2Mbs to now less than a 1Mbs (=1000 kbps)

A frustrated Rogers planner a while back told wirelessnorth.ca a story a while back. That try as they might it, it was habitually a beat-your-head against a wall challenge to convince the old-salt network managers to believe data usage would, yes virginia, one day take off. Overwhelming evidence of both ATT’s one year headstart on the iPhone, and Europe’s skyrocketing mobile broadband usage not withstanding. Seems big red is feeling the pain of short sightedness now. And passing the pleasure on to you. Assuming you can connect in the first place.

  • Dan
    I have had my iPhone for almost a month and have been doing periodic tests throughout that period. I live and work in downtown Toronto and have consistently shown about 1.2 Mbps download.
  • Ken Seto
    My experience with the iPhone 3G and Rogers during my trip in Montreal has been frustrating.
    - multiple errors and slowdowns, some requiring resets
    - slow as crap, speedtest from downtown Montreal reads: 286kbps download and 92kbps upload.

    I guess I should be thankful that Toronto isn't as bad.
  • tony
    Its not only data speeds that are poor. Rogers claim they are a "premium service" why is their voice quality so bad compared to gsm networks here in the UK. People often confuse reception bars with voice quality. Im not talking about reception. If you use the same handset, stand in the middle of Toronto, or Vancouver, or mississauga etc... and have a full signal... The voice quality does not compare to GSM networks in Europe. If you use the very same handset and have a full signal in the middle of London, England, the call is crystal clear even when calling cell phone to cell phone (hard to tell its not a landline), the call is also nice and loud. On Rogers you have to max the volume on most handsets to get adequate performance. Why is there a difference its the same GSM standard ?

    The only thing premium about Rogers are their profits and the consumer gets the raw deal with sub par data and a sub par network with "adequate quality" I thought the system access fee was to improve and maintain the network ? Doesnt seem Rogers network has even been optimised.
  • Robert
    "old-salt network managers to believe data usage would, yes virginia, one day take off", @ the prices they were charging, i would have agreed.

    The quoted potential bandwidth of 3.6 Mbps is not per user, but per cell tower. Also, that bandwidth is shared with voice as well. Good luck finding a personal 3G cell tower in Toronto. Or for folks in Halifax, a 3G cell tower at all.

    Give a year, the first generation edge iphones will be even faster than the 3g iphone.
  • jrodgers
    You are talking peak time speed right? I get over 1.5 mbps in Waterloo before and after normal working hours... and this is without students in town of course. During working hours it just slows to a crawl.
  • Aaron
    http://www.mediaroad.com/products/speedcheck/fr... has some interesting notes about converting MB/s to Mbps, including an apparent fallacy about a 1024 conversion factor for bandwidth.
  • WirelessNorth
    Corrected thanks.
  • Aaron
    Watch how you use those upper-case and lower-base Bs. B==byte, b==bit.
  • TJ
    I haven't even seen that kind of peak bandwidth on my 3G iPhone, I'm getting like 1/3 of 1024kbps, roughly 300~ kbps (Used speedtest).
  • WirelessNorth
    iPhone "3G" is it's own special beast and no where near 3.6 or 7.2 Mbps theoretical HSDPA speeds, or what you would see with a mobile broadband PC card or dongle.

    Your first warning sign for that would have been when Jobs introduced the iPhone "3G" as 2-3 times faster than EDGE.
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