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	<title>Comments on: Holy S%$#t, Bell and Telus to launch iPhone</title>
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		<title>By: frankyB</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2009/10/05/holy-st-bell-and-telus-to-launch-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1564</link>
		<dc:creator>frankyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No real surprise when you know Rogers never sign an exclusive agreement with Apple. No real surprise when you know Bell and Telus have spending like crazy to overhaul their network to support GSM/HSPA+ on their network and for Bell, strategically before the Olympics (they would look like fouls to sponsor it and see all those athletes roaming on Rogers)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;AND IT&#039;S A GOOD THING!!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TO JR:&lt;br&gt;GSM does stipulate on which band it should RUN it has nothing to do with the Standard. It does make it more difficult for us N-A to get all the same handset that are available elsewhere. Now that Rogers won&#039;t be the only one selecting what we can or can&#039;t have, you will see more Quad bands GSM/UMTS phones in our makets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No real surprise when you know Rogers never sign an exclusive agreement with Apple. No real surprise when you know Bell and Telus have spending like crazy to overhaul their network to support GSM/HSPA+ on their network and for Bell, strategically before the Olympics (they would look like fouls to sponsor it and see all those athletes roaming on Rogers)</p>
<p>AND IT&#39;S A GOOD THING!!!!</p>
<p>TO JR:<br />GSM does stipulate on which band it should RUN it has nothing to do with the Standard. It does make it more difficult for us N-A to get all the same handset that are available elsewhere. Now that Rogers won&#39;t be the only one selecting what we can or can&#39;t have, you will see more Quad bands GSM/UMTS phones in our makets.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig H</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2009/10/05/holy-st-bell-and-telus-to-launch-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1563</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australia has more than 3 carriers selling it. Vodafone, Optus, Telstra, Virgin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australia has more than 3 carriers selling it. Vodafone, Optus, Telstra, Virgin</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2009/10/05/holy-st-bell-and-telus-to-launch-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1562</link>
		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....and another thing:  Why does the Canadian cellphone industry see a need to charge for different types of data?  How can carriers make plans that say &quot;you can email this many emails, or send this many IM messages, or use this much data for xyz application, or download this much from the web&quot;, etc.?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is a major privacy issue too.  A cellphone carrier can see exactly which application you&#039;re using at any given time on your phone.  And why does tethering cost more for raw data than using a supported 3G modem??  It shouldn&#039;t matter what type of device I&#039;m using.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IT&#039;S ALL DATA!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just give me like 10GB of data for a reasonable amount of money ($35 should be more than enough for cellphone providers to make a healthy profit) and let me use it for whatever I like.  There&#039;s a reason why smartphone uptake in Canada is so low, and it&#039;s not for lack of hardware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.and another thing:  Why does the Canadian cellphone industry see a need to charge for different types of data?  How can carriers make plans that say &#8220;you can email this many emails, or send this many IM messages, or use this much data for xyz application, or download this much from the web&#8221;, etc.?</p>
<p>This is a major privacy issue too.  A cellphone carrier can see exactly which application you&#39;re using at any given time on your phone.  And why does tethering cost more for raw data than using a supported 3G modem??  It shouldn&#39;t matter what type of device I&#39;m using.</p>
<p>IT&#39;S ALL DATA!</p>
<p>Just give me like 10GB of data for a reasonable amount of money ($35 should be more than enough for cellphone providers to make a healthy profit) and let me use it for whatever I like.  There&#39;s a reason why smartphone uptake in Canada is so low, and it&#39;s not for lack of hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: constant gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>constant gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read the title I was like whhaaa Bell??  as in Southern Bell lmao...they are going tech backwards..lmao..!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read the title I was like whhaaa Bell??  as in Southern Bell lmao&#8230;they are going tech backwards..lmao..!!</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2009/10/05/holy-st-bell-and-telus-to-launch-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1560</link>
		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I get that everybody on the same page might seem to be better for competition, but it hasn&#039;t done anything between Bell and Telus.  Since I purchased a Touch Diamond when it came available on Telus, and then shortly after on Bell, rates have gone UP, not down!  When I subscribed a little over a year ago (summer 2008), it was $45 for &quot;unlimited&quot; (read: 5GB) data, SMS, IM, email, and whathaveyou.  Now it&#039;s a paltry 500MB.  Bell is now the same too.  Also, all three providers were offering 3G USB sticks for free back then, and anywhere from $20-$100 on a tiered mobile broadband, with $100 offering unlimited bandwidth.  Now it&#039;s not.  Why has the CRTC deregulated the cellphone industry?  Why do I pay a &quot;network access fee&quot; to access the network???  WTF is my monthly fee for then?!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This whole thing about the spectrum auction is just going to further segment GSM frequencies too.  North American GSM providers are already not compatible with worldwide carriers.  I don&#039;t see how bringing GSM is going to benefit international teams for the Olympics when they won&#039;t get 3G here with the current North American GSM implementations.  By auctioning off additional frequencies, it will cost handset makers more for mobile chipsets that offer all of the frequencies combined.  Do you really think that this cost is not going to be passed down to consumers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I get that everybody on the same page might seem to be better for competition, but it hasn&#39;t done anything between Bell and Telus.  Since I purchased a Touch Diamond when it came available on Telus, and then shortly after on Bell, rates have gone UP, not down!  When I subscribed a little over a year ago (summer 2008), it was $45 for &#8220;unlimited&#8221; (read: 5GB) data, SMS, IM, email, and whathaveyou.  Now it&#39;s a paltry 500MB.  Bell is now the same too.  Also, all three providers were offering 3G USB sticks for free back then, and anywhere from $20-$100 on a tiered mobile broadband, with $100 offering unlimited bandwidth.  Now it&#39;s not.  Why has the CRTC deregulated the cellphone industry?  Why do I pay a &#8220;network access fee&#8221; to access the network???  WTF is my monthly fee for then?!</p>
<p>This whole thing about the spectrum auction is just going to further segment GSM frequencies too.  North American GSM providers are already not compatible with worldwide carriers.  I don&#39;t see how bringing GSM is going to benefit international teams for the Olympics when they won&#39;t get 3G here with the current North American GSM implementations.  By auctioning off additional frequencies, it will cost handset makers more for mobile chipsets that offer all of the frequencies combined.  Do you really think that this cost is not going to be passed down to consumers?</p>
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		<title>By: dude1</title>
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		<dc:creator>dude1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just hope we can use our old plans if we get one not on contract, on bell with my htc touch i get $5 unlimited data with tethering using a hacked rom on my HTC touch. i dont care if i need to jailbreak and clone the imei from a crap phone to do it but i want my cheep unlimited data</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just hope we can use our old plans if we get one not on contract, on bell with my htc touch i get $5 unlimited data with tethering using a hacked rom on my HTC touch. i dont care if i need to jailbreak and clone the imei from a crap phone to do it but i want my cheep unlimited data</p>
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		<title>By: Peter C</title>
		<link>http://wirelessnorth.ca/2009/10/05/holy-st-bell-and-telus-to-launch-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1558</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exciting news..HSPA/GSM networks on all 3 major carriers. Now, I would caution that we should not expect to see cut throat competition..they are smart enough not to eat their own after-all. The competition catalyst will truly occur when we have the new wireless entrants join the market place. All we can hope for is that the major carriers through their quasi competition introduce a true all-you-can-eat data plan to the market....then see what innovative projects/businesses/applications will launch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exciting news..HSPA/GSM networks on all 3 major carriers. Now, I would caution that we should not expect to see cut throat competition..they are smart enough not to eat their own after-all. The competition catalyst will truly occur when we have the new wireless entrants join the market place. All we can hope for is that the major carriers through their quasi competition introduce a true all-you-can-eat data plan to the market&#8230;.then see what innovative projects/businesses/applications will launch.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the big three don&#039;t wait to use their AWS band for LTE and start also using them now...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That would allow real competition with portable device across almost all providers, for data at least.&lt;br&gt;(GSM with 4 band is pretty much a solved issue...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the big three don&#39;t wait to use their AWS band for LTE and start also using them now&#8230;</p>
<p>That would allow real competition with portable device across almost all providers, for data at least.<br />(GSM with 4 band is pretty much a solved issue&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lessard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Lessard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telus has posted it live on their site as coming soon!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/home/index.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/home/index....&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telus has posted it live on their site as coming soon!!</p>
<p><a href="https://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/home/index.shtml" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="https://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/home/index..." rel="nofollow">https://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/home/index&#8230;</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien O&#39;Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien O&#39;Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy with today&#039;s news as a TELUS client in Quebec. It&#039;s not that I will get an iPhone but we can expect more competition in the market. By the way, I want to correct something you said. I invite you to check the following article (linked below): Orange to offer iPhone service in the UK. There you can read that the iPhone is already offered by the 3 carriers in French.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=0233DCE5-1A64-6A71-CED26AD84AA188C1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=0233DCE5-1A64-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the article, you can read the following: Gene Munster noted that multiple carriers help Apple achieve greater market penetration. In France, for example, Apple&#039;s market share jumped after other carriers began offering the iPhone earlier this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m happy with today&#39;s news as a TELUS client in Quebec. It&#39;s not that I will get an iPhone but we can expect more competition in the market. By the way, I want to correct something you said. I invite you to check the following article (linked below): Orange to offer iPhone service in the UK. There you can read that the iPhone is already offered by the 3 carriers in French.<br /><a href="http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=0233DCE5-1A64-6A71-CED26AD84AA188C1" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=0233DCE5-1A64-.." rel="nofollow">http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=0233DCE5-1A64-..</a>.</p>
<p>In the article, you can read the following: Gene Munster noted that multiple carriers help Apple achieve greater market penetration. In France, for example, Apple&#39;s market share jumped after other carriers began offering the iPhone earlier this year.</p>
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